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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Sept 14, 2015 17:55:53 GMT -5
I know this is an oldie, but goodie. But I want to restart the fire. I want to start a discussion on the job duties, responsibilities, training and requirements of Non-Unifomred Correctional Staff. I want to get employees in this category talking together because I am in the process as we speak of filing a class action law suit. Equal work Equal Pay. I want to know that duties that are being asked of Non Uniformed Correctional staff, maintenance agriculture, MnL, etc. I want to know about an grievances submitted, rejected, shot down, etc. Help me help all of us. For those of you not in uniform, you should have already noticed an additional pay raise that was NOT previously mentioned in the General Appropriations Act. You should have gotten a salary group increase and a job title change that was about 8.5%. This is in addition to what the GAA gave. Though TDC will not admit it, these things were given from a result of the ongoing battle I am in with them. Please feel free to let the discussion begin.
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Post by mley1 on Sept 15, 2015 0:00:07 GMT -5
When TDCJ went to reclassifying the jobs you're talking about to titles other than security, your pay raises went away. And, since then all of those types of jobs have been very underpaid. That's why it's so hard to fill the maintenance and agg jobs now. Same for the industry jobs. If it ain't security, it ain't gonna get the same raises percentage wise normally, at least not anymore.
The sad thing is that you guys do way MORE than most security officers do on a daily basis.
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Post by bobothebeaten on Sept 15, 2015 15:29:45 GMT -5
I know this is an oldie, but goodie. But I want to restart the fire. I want to start a discussion on the job duties, responsibilities, training and requirements of Non-Unifomred Correctional Staff. I want to get employees in this category talking together because I am in the process as we speak of filing a class action law suit. Equal work Equal Pay. I want to know that duties that are being asked of Non Uniformed Correctional staff, maintenance agriculture, MnL, etc. I want to know about an grievances submitted, rejected, shot down, etc. Help me help all of us. For those of you not in uniform, you should have already noticed an additional pay raise that was NOT previously mentioned in the General Appropriations Act. You should have gotten a salary group increase and a job title change that was about 8.5%. This is in addition to what the GAA gave. Though TDC will not admit it, these things were given from a result of the ongoing battle I am in with them. Please feel free to let the discussion begin. Make it a BONFIRE!
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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Sept 15, 2015 15:52:02 GMT -5
I already have BOBO. You are correct Marty. A personal agenda and a pissing match between directors back in 1995 screwed us. Now we are suffering. But what employees don't realize is that the Texas Commission for Law Enforcement has commissioned TDCJ to certify ALL employees that receive hazardous duty pay and that work on a secure facility as a Public Safety Officer. Otherwise known as a Correctional Peace Officer. So to be specific, ANYONE, including clerks, purchasers, maintenance, agriculture, etc is actually being certified as Correctional Staff. This is a must to ensure to the tax payers, that the incarcerated are being taking care of to the best possible way. So I am being trained and certified as a Correctional Officer, performing the same duties and Essential Functions as a Correctional Officer, being held to all the same policies, procedures, SOP's, etc as a Correctional Officer......but being paid far less. What every happen to the Equal Work, Equal Pay section of the Texas Govt Code?
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Post by hondo on Sept 16, 2015 7:20:44 GMT -5
The easiest solution to this problem is to require attendance at the TDCJ Pre-Service Training Academy for anyone who works in direct contact with the offender population. Nearly all of those support jobs can be done by correctional staff who are skilled in those areas or have the correct level education and experience for those jobs. A good bit of the pay inequality problems can solved by making most of those support jobs into H-Card Correctional Officer positions with the same pay as front-line security staff. Those support jobs that require a very high skill set or a certain amount of higher education should be paid on the supervisory pay scale. (Schedule B Salary Table) Furthermore, I believe that anyone who works in a correctional setting should be uniformed correctional staff no matter what their position is on the unit. This would include Maintenance, Industry, Agriculture, Livestock, Food Service, Laundry Service Commissary, Supply, Count-Room, Mail-Room and even most of the UTMB medical staff. The only people on the unit not required to wear some type of uniform would be the Wardens, Chaplains, Doctors, Human Resources staff and the Warden's secretaries. Everyone on the unit needs to be held to the same standards and pay as uniformed correctional staff if their duties require direct contact with the offender population on a regular basis.
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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Jul 23, 2016 10:03:15 GMT -5
Ummmmm. First of all we all do attend the PSTA. Secondly, I absolutely guarantee you the majority of today's correctional staff could absolutely not perform allot of these non uniformed jobs, much less even qualify for them. Most Correctional staff have hard enough time managing a cell block let alone a production environment that also includes performing correctional duties. Also, these jobs were in fact uniformed positions 20 years ago. The funding correctional staff gets now for raises and security operations is provided by Agriculture and Commisarry.
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Post by mley1 on Jul 23, 2016 10:19:03 GMT -5
Ummmmm. First of all we all do attend the PSTA. Secondly, I absolutely guarantee you the majority of today's correctional staff could absolutely not perform allot of these non uniformed jobs, much less even qualify for them. Most Correctional staff have hard enough time managing a cell block let alone a production environment that also includes performing correctional duties. Also, these jobs were in fact uniformed positions 20 years ago. The funding correctional staff gets now for raises and security operations is provided by Agriculture and Commisarry. Not only were a lot of them uniformed, but many wore rank from sergeant on up to captain. When they were reclassified all that went away. That was the worst screwing our agency ever did to employee's.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Jul 23, 2016 17:55:31 GMT -5
Not only were a lot of them uniformed, but many wore rank from sergeant on up to captain. When they were reclassified all that went away. That was the worst screwing our agency ever did to employee's. Like The Food Service Managers...Can't tell you how many times over the years I heard Shift supervisors say "They are not Supervisors"... There was a Day when Food Service had it's own Security...Not assigned from shift. It is a Team Effort out there... Security are the "Glory Hogs"
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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Jul 25, 2016 19:24:24 GMT -5
Well the difference is that no one cares if they consider you a true "Capt" or not.....At least you are getting the true "Capt" salary.
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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Jul 25, 2016 19:26:17 GMT -5
On a brighter note, Ag and Maint was given the same full salary increase this past Sept. It actually brought them up to Correctional Supv salaries....until the Correctional Supv also got the same raise. I guess the squeaky wheel does get the grease!
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Post by mley1 on Jul 25, 2016 23:04:03 GMT -5
Hell I still refer to my kitchen supervisors as sergeants, and the big boss in the kitchen is my kitchen captain, always will be. Same for the laundry. A lot of folks may not know that the unit risk managers also used to be captains, wore uniforms and insignia. They wore white shirts, with captain bars on their collars. Not only that, but the very first regional stg managers were captains. Enrique Franco went from being a Lieutenant on Retrieve to being the region 3 gang captain. Then, they fucked all of them with the reclassification's. After that when security got raises, they didn't. Before long the stg sergeants were making more than their regional supervisor. Thank God somebody in admin had sense enough to at least make them lieutenants, rank again. They deserve it, and earned it.
All I can tell you is this reclassification of positions screwed so many people over, and still does. It's ridiculous. TDCJ can't hire good help in those specialized positions because some of them pay less than CO pay.
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