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Post by bobothebeaten on Sept 19, 2011 19:40:59 GMT -5
... These people have to realize if a supervisor ask me to to write it I am going to do so... . I like to accomodate the supervisor when duty calls, but so much of the time they want me to speculate when I was not close enough to tell. If the supervisor witnessed it, why don't they want to write the statement? It is, because nobody knows for sure and the supervisor is using the other guards to bolster the supervisor's weak observation. Another problem I have with bolstering weak observations is, what if the supervisor has been after the sleeping guard for a long time and put sleeping pills in the sleeping officers coffee? I don't want to get in the middle of that, either. You are just as dirty as the supervisor, if you don't supplement that report. The point is, you don't have any problem with testifying about someone who you don't perceive as being strong enough to fight back. You do have problems with reporting supervisor misconduct and negligence, because you are afraid of them. You're getting sleepy, you're getting speeeeepy, very very sleeeeeeeeepy. WTF?
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Post by lockumup on Sept 27, 2011 21:19:32 GMT -5
J B is still at Terrell as a Lt.
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Post by hadituptoHERE on Oct 3, 2011 14:42:24 GMT -5
I'm here to tell you that when you do report a unit level/departmental problem that's brought to your rank's attention, it does, not if, no or maybe but DOES get you harassment. In my case I didn't even realize that was why I was no longer getting the assignments I normally did - just thought something else was going on.
Also I didn't even "report" the problem as such but referred to it indirectly. Now I'm paying the price.
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Post by takencare on Oct 3, 2011 16:09:41 GMT -5
.... Also I didn't even "report" the problem as such but referred to it indirectly. Now I'm paying the price. Did you figure out a safer method of reporting it? I think you will have similar problems by using the phone number found on the whistle blower posters. Emails to the Governor's office might help protect your ability to sue the State for violation of the whistle blower policies and statutes. The most successful whistleblower lawsuits that I have reviewed, involved the high profile whistle blower attorneys making the initial whistle blower report.
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Post by hadituptoHERE on Oct 5, 2011 1:44:43 GMT -5
The deal was I wasn't even "reporting" anything, just putting my experiences out in a way that I thought was confidential. I couldn't even imagine what the results would have been had I chosen to actually make a report. So for now I guess I just have to take it.
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Post by maningray on Oct 6, 2011 10:41:00 GMT -5
One or two of the whistles blowers from Terrell are still with the agency and were "promoted into the TDCJ ID Family"
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Post by takencare on Oct 6, 2011 17:55:08 GMT -5
Reporting to the media is not what is covered under the whistle blower act. One got an emergency transfer to Clemens and promoted to Lieutenant. I hope to see him at the Huntsville gathering at 10 am on Saturday. The other one demoted. He hung a R3 for a minute, than he promoted back to a Sergeant at R1. I thought that policy required officers to refer the media to the TDCJ spokesperson. One was motivated solely by self-interest, but at least they tried. The one that went to R1 is an upstanding person. The other reportee talks out of both sides of his mouth and has been responsible for numerous rumors. That is what it takes. Hind sight indicates that R3 would have reformed, if they could have promoted at R3 and finished what they started.
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Post by lockumup on Oct 6, 2011 21:00:59 GMT -5
Now wait a minute takencare your talking about a friend of mine. Maybe what your heard about him is nothing but rumors also. Don't be so quick to judge.
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Post by hadituptoHERE on Oct 13, 2011 21:20:39 GMT -5
I'm gonna say "no." It doesn't even matter if you really did what they "think" you did. If the higher ups even suspect you may have said something you are nailed. You will without a doubt get harrassed or retaliated against and sometimes not even know directly that's what's happening. I'm speaking from what's going on a 6 months payback. The b____h is - I didn't do what I'm accused of and don't even know where or who to go to report something even if I was stupid enough to.
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Post by stbm on Oct 23, 2011 8:05:16 GMT -5
snitches get stitches Thats what I have always heard about this agency.
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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Oct 24, 2011 17:04:32 GMT -5
Yall speak of corruption with in the uniformed staff......Does anyone see/not see it with in the non-uniformed staffs' world?
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Post by auntboo on Oct 25, 2011 8:34:49 GMT -5
Yall speak of corruption with in the uniformed staff......Does anyone see/not see it with in the non-uniformed staffs' world? A most excellent question. I can tell you that, for lack of a better term, the "good ol' boy" system is alive and well within the non-uniformed TDCJ staff world. Wrong-doing? Yes... Ethics violations? A big yes. Criminal wrong-doing? Probably. Laziness? Oh Hell yeah (the non-uniformed world has its "trashcan sitters", also). People promoted beyond their experience? I see it every day. Corruption? Eh... I guess it depends on the definition. Corruption as in anything dealing with inmates? I've not seen it where I work. Stupidity, yes, but not really corruption. Corruption as in impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle? Oh yeah. Probably witnessed it, but didn't really think about it at the time, but later realized it.
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Post by Backgate on Oct 25, 2011 16:27:24 GMT -5
I can tell you from watching it all unfold here, as the Backgate broke the Terrell story, that no one involved in reporting what happened there did it for any other reason other then to help the "good" staff members out. Countless hours of stress for them and their families, blatant retaliation, and whispers behind the back even still today. And Takencare, not really sure you know as much as you portray you do because some you mention were not even involved in the actual case although they tried to be for dramatic affect. There were three, but not who you are assuming it to be. One is now a captain in Huntsville and made it on his own accord. They opened up the doors for low level staff to take a stand against corruption and put themselves and their careers on the line to do so. The thing is that it all stopped after that, no one continued the good fight and had the guts to continue. That's the sad part of the deal.
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Post by strykerphoenix on Dec 5, 2011 1:17:37 GMT -5
Yup word has it R3 is ten times worse now...just they got smarter about doing it
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Post by bobothebeaten on Apr 3, 2012 18:57:28 GMT -5
I've busted a few officers who were crooked, and ended up getting fired. Only one ever tried to confront me, and I was a sergeant at the time. That didn't work out to well for him. And, the ones I helped catch as a CO never bothered to mess with me. I guess I'm just too ugly. ;D I'm sure you're not ugly, but that big slab of meat you carry around next to you kind of freaks people out.
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