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Post by Backgate on Sept 15, 2011 12:45:08 GMT -5
Saw the post on the main site. Is there any benefit to whistle blowing within the agency ? Are you rewarded for doing the right thing ? or does it come with retaliation and harassment ? I have my thoughts on the subject, what are yours as employees ?
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Post by srb on Sept 15, 2011 14:35:55 GMT -5
It works both ways and it depends on what you are blowing the whistle on. A criminal act you had better say something to someone and in writing. If it is found you knew and said nothing they could come after you for that.
Something less, like a unit level problem. You may recieve some harassment for that.
I comes down to Doing the Right Thing. A clear mind, and restful nights.
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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Sept 15, 2011 16:06:10 GMT -5
I have used my own judgment own rather or not something should be blown open. I have done it and always remained unknown. If it is a severe waste of money and/or resources, you can bet I will report it. And every one involved as well.
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Post by lockumup on Sept 15, 2011 17:30:09 GMT -5
I had an incident where a supervisor caught an officer sleeping and the supervisor ask the other officer and myself to write an IOC on what we saw her do with the officer sleeping. We did as the supervisor ask. Since that incident I have caught nothing but pure hell from some of the officers. But the officers that are harassing me happen to also be one's who sleep. I was cornered by a male officer recently who got up in my space and wanted to know why people snitch. These people have to realize if a supervisor ask me to to write it I am going to do so. I take my job seriously and I plan to retire with TDCJ and these same people are only here because they could not find another job. They are not here for the long haul. And I am.
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Post by takencare on Sept 15, 2011 17:59:28 GMT -5
... These people have to realize if a supervisor ask me to to write it I am going to do so... . I like to accomodate the supervisor when duty calls, but so much of the time they want me to speculate when I was not close enough to tell. If the supervisor witnessed it, why don't they want to write the statement? It is, because nobody knows for sure and the supervisor is using the other guards to bolster the supervisor's weak observation. Another problem I have with bolstering weak observations is, what if the supervisor has been after the sleeping guard for a long time and put sleeping pills in the sleeping officers coffee? I don't want to get in the middle of that, either. You are just as dirty as the supervisor, if you don't supplement that report. The point is, you don't have any problem with testifying about someone who you don't perceive as being strong enough to fight back. You do have problems with reporting supervisor misconduct and negligence, because you are afraid of them.
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Post by lockumup on Sept 15, 2011 18:15:00 GMT -5
The supervisor did write the statement we just wrote down what we saw her do. She stood in front of the sleeping officer for several minutes to make sure he was actually sleeping and that was what was written. This same officer had been written up several times for sleeping even before I was on the shift. And FYI you have no idea what I do and don't do. See thats all rumor's and rumors is what hurt people.
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Post by psychosteve71 on Sept 16, 2011 4:12:27 GMT -5
I had an incident where a supervisor caught an officer sleeping and the supervisor ask the other officer and myself to write an IOC on what we saw her do with the officer sleeping. We did as the supervisor ask. Since that incident I have caught nothing but pure hell from some of the officers. But the officers that are harassing me happen to also be one's who sleep. I was cornered by a male officer recently who got up in my space and wanted to know why people snitch. These people have to realize if a supervisor ask me to to write it I am going to do so. I take my job seriously and I plan to retire with TDCJ and these same people are only here because they could not find another job. They are not here for the long haul. And I am. That really burns my ass! Those same people who screech and wail and try to intimidate you for expecting them to meet standards and do their jobs are the first ones to cry when things don't go their way or somebody steps on their toes.
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Post by mley1 on Sept 16, 2011 5:45:42 GMT -5
I've busted a few officers who were crooked, and ended up getting fired. Only one ever tried to confront me, and I was a sergeant at the time. That didn't work out to well for him. And, the ones I helped catch as a CO never bothered to mess with me. I guess I'm just too ugly. ;D
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Post by srb on Sept 16, 2011 15:27:58 GMT -5
Guards? Supervisors puttin Sleeping Pills in our Coffee? REALLY!!! Where the HELL do yoy work? I need to stay away from there!!!
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Post by srb on Sept 16, 2011 15:28:40 GMT -5
Don't be F'ing with my coffee!
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Post by seashoreofolmexico on Sept 16, 2011 15:48:16 GMT -5
Supervisors puttin Sleeping Pills in our Coffee? REALLY!!! I only use this as a last resort around 2am at the bar!
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Post by mley1 on Sept 16, 2011 16:11:38 GMT -5
Don't be F'ing with my coffee! I don't drink coffee for ONE reason. Almost 29yrs ago I let an old convict fix me a cup of coffee at Ramsey 1. I damn near threw my guts up when I took the first sip. The old bastard just laughed, and said "watsa matta bossman, youz ain't neva hads u no convict coffee?". ;D Well, hell no I hadn't, up until then. And, being an 18yr old snot nosed kid used to drinking Mountain Dew, I figured I didn't need no more of that "convict coffee". ;D ;D
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Post by glorybee on Sept 16, 2011 16:51:28 GMT -5
Guards? Supervisors putting sleeping pills in our coffee? REALLY!!! Where the HELL do you work? I need to stay away from there!!! Those supervisors left R3. One went to J3 and I heard that the other is at rockin D. Rumor has it that she made Captain. She used to brag on her facebook page about her vindictive tendencies. If anybody is investigating, they should start with her reputation in Victoria. That halcion is nasty stuff. Lots of bad side affects. Very harmful to people who are working a night shift. I believe that the TDCJ policies define whistle blowing as reporting misconduct that is either initiated or allowed by the administration. Snitching on your co-workers may be covered too, but I kind of doubt it. How could the law make your employer responsible in attorney's and punitive damages for something like that? Recent court rulings dilute the federal whistle blower law. The last time I checked TDCJ policies still protect their workers.
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Post by lockumup on Sept 17, 2011 6:26:24 GMT -5
Glorybee if you are referring to Lt. A.C. NO she did not make Captain. She is assigned to 3rd shift.
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Post by glorybee on Sept 19, 2011 15:45:39 GMT -5
Glorybee if you are referring to Lt. A.C. NO she did not make Captain. She is assigned to 3rd shift. J. B.
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