jctih
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Post by jctih on Nov 22, 2015 13:04:11 GMT -5
Sadly, this forum has gone down to just one or two contributors. I guess everyone has clammed up due to pressure or intimidation. Be assured, both exist in TDCJ, as well as other state agencies I have worked for. and closely with. Along that line, does anyone know of anywhere else a retired employee can keep up with what's happening within the agency? Other than the TDJO board are there any interesting url's to check out?
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Post by mley1 on Nov 22, 2015 17:35:29 GMT -5
Facebook has a lot of corrections related contributors.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Nov 23, 2015 1:47:40 GMT -5
Truth hurts...They held my posts against me when It came down to the wire..In their words " I can't tell you what to say because that Violates your Rights and is against the LAW but...(BUT means, tough shit proving it)..Your right everyone is afraid of the system and of their Rank.
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Post by mley1 on Nov 24, 2015 10:47:01 GMT -5
Retaliation happens. I've not experienced it. I'm careful though, with what I write. I never write hearsay, or rumor, unless I qualify it as such. And, I'm not gonna write about active investigations. And, unless it's public knowledge through some reliable source, I do not allow names to be posted here in reference to incidents, or investigations. I see a lot of folks write on TJDO doing nothing but moan, groan, and complain about stupid shit. Those types of folks are never happy, no matter where they work. Quite honestly, the vast majority of the crap I've seen written about my units has been bullshit here lately. And, I will post a correction when I can if I'm privy to the correct info.
I'm one of the few that post on both boards, and uses my real name, without fear of retaliation. If I post something you can take it to the bank. I never post anything I wouldn't say to the admin at TDCJ. I've dropped my nuts a few times on the boards. It'll be to the best of my knowledge, and I won't be posting whiny bullshit. Half them whiny folks wouldn't last a week back in the day(30+yrs ago). They'd be handled in the parking lot, and wouldn't be coming back.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Nov 24, 2015 18:58:04 GMT -5
They'd be handled in the parking lot, and wouldn't be coming back. I offered many times to give anyone a Chance legally to go old school in a legitament way. A $25 Dollar Donation to a Youth Center and Step into a Ring with Boxing Gear at a Boxong Expo, never had anyone take me up on the Offer. I never post anything I am not willing to testify to under oath in a court of Law...I never believed in the "Hear No Evil, See no Evil, Speak no Evil" attitude. I admitted that we have problems. Some of it because of the System, some by lazy Employees. Many Employees won't say nothing because regardless of what people say about the Pay..You can't earn anything near it around here. Especially without a college degree fresh out High School. No where else will you only work 16 days at the Most in a Month on a 4/4 Unit. The Insurrance ain't the best but it is better than None. To get better Positions you can't rock the Boat. You want approved time off you don't rock the Boat. You want to do what they want you to do. How many of you think the system will stand behind you when something happens even though your tired, overworked because they are understaffed because You keep your mouths shut to keep a Job.When someone dies and you failed to do something like 30 minute rounds...You think your supervisor is gonna admit knowing you forged their rounds because they take care of you for taking care ofthem? TDCJ and Offenders have the same attitude towards officers...Your a Dime a Dozen, they use you and dispose of you when your no longer needed..They both drop you like a Hot Potatoe first chance they get caught...They jump ship like rats when it starts going down leaving you without a lifevest.
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Post by mley1 on Nov 25, 2015 10:13:28 GMT -5
I hear ya. You gotta pick your battles. Staffing is an issue at all the units. What most fail to realize is that it is NOT the unit admin that cause the shortage. Most of the time it's due to HV admin changing up the staffing plans to reduce labor budgets. Now days TDCJ is run like a business, with set budgets for EVERYTHING. Staying within those budgets is important for the admin. At the unit level it poses some tremendous challenges for admin, and front line supervisors. The sad part is that the supervisors who get rode hard the most get burned out the quickest, and get to where they don't care.
There are units I would refuse to work at. Not because I don't like the supervision. But, because I know they are set up for failure from the get go. Your unit is sorta like that. You were short of staff, all the time. The staffing plan was inadequate. And, there's not a damn thing your admin can do about it. I've seen wardens submit proposals regarding staffing, in attempts to increase staff. Most of the time they are met with resistance and denials at the upper levels.
Anyhow, I said all that to say that if anyone wants to last in this agency they MUST learn how everything works. They gotta learn what they can accomplish with a complaint, and what will get them run off. One thing I did in my career, and still do, is if I see an issue on my unit I won't go to the bossman until I have a SOLUTION for the issue. And, I don't go to the bossman without HARD evidence and FACTS. I don't go complaining about stuff they can't fix, or trivial stuff. And, I damn sure don't go whining about crap that I know nobody cares about but me. I recommend that folks learn POLICY. Learn it, and USE it to your advantage. And, in 33yrs I've only been brought up on ONE, yes just one, formal disciplinary. And, that disciplinary was dismissed by the warden because it was bullshit.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Nov 26, 2015 3:06:46 GMT -5
A day in court is coming..Everyone should know This dog can get off the porch and Hunt..This cat can fight it's way outta Paper Bag... I know the rules, I know the policies...I know how to document..I still have some eyes and ears on the Unit. I kept records, so did others...I got a few Copies of some paper such as "Time Lines"...We Will see how much my Bad reputation will hurt me in Court. If I didn't give a Damn about others I would have kept my Mouth Shut, I would have riden TDCJ's coat tails to retirement. I would have been cruising the golden posts on the Unit. I would not have worried everytimme (and I still do) someone got hurt...I wouldn't have gone visit them in the Hospital or at Home. Afterall I wasn't a Supervisor...was not my job.. I wish sometimes I was uncaring enough to just send a Card Saying "Sorry about Ya Luck, but I told ya so" I did not go complaining outside until they started screwing me over...I had a Good Bossman...Was good to everyone...All My Bogus B@llsh!t was thrown out under him also...I Plead guilty to what I did and deserved punishment for. I always told people if your willing to take a Short Cut, be willing to take the punishment if ya get caught. If you ever Worked the Dorms and you say ya never left the picket door unlocked and ya never had your fellow workers in the picket before Cameras you the biggest God D#mn F&ck#ng Liar there is out there. Hard Evidence...ummm got that..I ain't the only one out there dotting down dates, times...and now there are cameras so when ya don't make rounds, there is proof. Supervisor on the desk or off the Building or The Boss hanging out in the Closet, there will be proof..when ya pull people off posts to cover Positions, and Violate staffing issues...there is proof...If ya not standing out side the Desk Cage observing the Pill window, there is proof..If your not Locking the front door and controling traffic...you guessed it..there will be proof.. If Only someone had said..."Damn Stoddard, You had a Medical reason for passing out in the picket and your Doctor says your cleared to come back to work...Welcome back...!! Who would have know where we would be right about now!!! Oh if ya think their little edited Video of 18 minutes of me Motionless in a chair is evidence, let see how it compares side by side to the video of Two Sleep Tests conducted by Medical staff would compare side by side. My Doctor compared it to watching "the exorcist". so much jerking and Bolt upright from not breathing up to 45 seconds at a time. One from 2006 and one from January 2015..In 2006 they document 144 occurances in the first 120 minutes without the Machine. After the Machine I had 0. I am sure even a TDCJ Doctor who is Blind could see the comparrison difference.I require it in the Car when Traveling and trying to sleep, I can't go camping without it and electricity. If the picket was a cure for sleep Apnea I would move into a Picket today..Getting tired of requiring a machine and 12 psi in order to sleep...Only time I have not moved in years when sleeping without a Machine was when I was under in surgery on Machines and those "18 minutes perfectly still unmoving"..when the Boss was trapped in the D space with a Body Alarm and a Desk boss who never saw her banging on Windows. Which by the way the Regional Director said could not happen because there is adequate staffing and the Desk Bosses are capable of handeling the safety of the Pod Bosses
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Post by mley1 on Nov 26, 2015 9:33:49 GMT -5
You know, you keep mentioning camera's, and how they're gonna catch all this activity that's against the rules, and you're gonna use this in court. Really? Listen, I know you care. You're a good boss, and didn't deserve to be treated like you were. But, you gotta face some reality. I've always shot straight with you. So, here it is. First, how has the open records request for video come out for you? Let me just say that those camera's have, and will, break down just when you don't want them to. And, that digital video, well, lets just say that if they don't want you to have it, it ain't gonna be there. The ONLY video that will EVER be available is what they WANT, not what YOU want. Take that to the bank.
Your medical evidence is your best bet. Sleep Apnea is a serious condition. I've mentioned that before. I know you mean well, and I sure hope you succeed in beating them. But, so far, you've been on the losing end of each encounter that you've engaged in with your admin. They're beating you. I really hope you can win a lawsuit and get a bunch of money from them, and get some changes made. Maryanne Denner won her lawsuit. She had a solid case. Very few have solid cases like she did. Mrs Lyons also had a solid case. I gotta tell you though, when David goes against Goliath in TDCJ usually Goliath kicks Davids ass. The Davids of this world gotta have their shit together if they think they're gonna beat an agency with the resources TDCJ has.
I know this post sounds like I'm trying to discourage you. I'm sorry if it does. My intent is to let you know just a little about what you may face in your battle. TDCJ ain't new to this. Your battle may be more difficult than you realize. Hit them from every angle. Use everything you can get a hold of. Hopefully, you can find a good attorney that will take it to them, and win.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Nov 26, 2015 15:24:53 GMT -5
Hopefully, you can find a good attorney that will take it to them, and win. That is the one stumbling Block I have yet to over come. But it is looking pretty good with DOJ. Honestly I don't want to Win for Money...I really want back lost positions, I want more Staffing. I want the truth to be told and Acknowlegded.
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Post by It's Me! on Nov 27, 2015 6:27:19 GMT -5
Hopefully, you can find a good attorney that will take it to them, and win. That is the one stumbling Block I have yet to over come. But it is looking pretty good with DOJ. Honestly I don't want to Win for Money...I really want back lost positions, I want more Staffing. I want the truth to be told and Acknowlegded. I understand your intentions, I just don't understand how a court can help with "back lost positions, or staffing". Money and a return to a previous achieved rank or job assignment, I can see, but not the other. Good luck, but as with Ricky Minton and the other board, I expect it is going to be a tough row to hoe for you both. Good luck, I hope justice prevails, whatever the outcome.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Nov 28, 2015 1:37:42 GMT -5
I just don't understand how a court can help with "back lost positions, or staffing". Money and a return to a previous achieved rank or job assignment, I can see, but not the other. Well It would take another Ruiz v Estelle type case. I know once we came out of Federal Oversight things started sliding down hill again...Most of our issues were addressed under Federal Oversight for awhile..once that was over was when Staffing positions started dropping and being eliminated. But as long as everyone is happy with being understaffed there ain't nothing that can be done.. TDCJ came from Ruiz 1 to 48 Came from Ruiz (in housing areas) 1 to 6 Security to Offender ratio came from Ruiz since then they have found ways around most of it.
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Post by bobothebeaten on Nov 29, 2015 17:51:51 GMT -5
Well It would take another Ruiz v Estelle type case. I know once we came out of Federal Oversight things started sliding down hill again...Most of our issues were addressed under Federal Oversight for awhile..once that was over was when Staffing positions started dropping and being eliminated. But as long as everyone is happy with being understaffed there ain't nothing that can be done.. TDCJ came from Ruiz 1 to 48 Came from Ruiz (in housing areas) 1 to 6 Security to Offender ratio came from Ruiz since then they have found ways around most of it. If a condition violates policy then it should be grieved. Don't forget that the Ruiz case began when he wrote the federal court listing his complaints on toilet paper and look what happened. I bet the TDC officials were laughing their butts off until the court took notice of his issues. Policy should be followed by all employees and bad policy should be changed. More often than not it takes someone who is willing to take the heat to get it done.
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Post by bobothebeaten on Nov 30, 2015 16:37:15 GMT -5
Sadly, this forum has gone down to just one or two contributors. I guess everyone has clammed up due to pressure or intimidation. Be assured, both exist in TDCJ, as well as other state agencies I have worked for. and closely with. Along that line, does anyone know of anywhere else a retired employee can keep up with what's happening within the agency? Other than the TDJO board are there any interesting url's to check out? We post when there is something relevant to say. Why would you need any other source than this one and TJDO?
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Nov 30, 2015 20:19:45 GMT -5
What is TJDO ?? Is that where all the Annoymus People go toe Post rants ?
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Post by mley1 on Dec 1, 2015 17:59:46 GMT -5
Texas Justice Dot Org. And, yes, most people post anonymously. I'm one of the few that post using my real name.
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