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Post by plandon87 on Jan 18, 2016 0:02:02 GMT -5
Back in 08 after working a few years being the dumb kid I was I got caught changing the date on a doctors note to get time off work and a break from all the mandatory overtime. Feeling like I could find a better job days after I went and quit while I was under investigation pending disciplinary. Of course I was unable to find that miracle job and was back trying to reapply a few months later and of course was denied. I went a pulled a copy of my personnel file and found I have a no rehire document signed by the warden (same guy that begged me to stay and told me I was making a mistake). I have been reapplying every year since and have been denied every time even after almost 8 years. I was hoping someone on here might have some experience with something like this or at least know what I could do? Thanks.
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Post by mley1 on Jan 19, 2016 0:19:28 GMT -5
Once that gets on your file, good luck getting it off. You would need someone at the deputy director level, or above, to remove it. Unless you got a brother inlaw, sister inlaw, or second cousin in high places, I suggest you look elsewhere for employment. TDCJ will NOT hire you back with that no rehire letter on your record. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Post by mley1 on Jan 19, 2016 0:20:57 GMT -5
I would for anyone reading, do NOT quit while you have a disciplinary pending. You too will end up with the no rehire letter. Face the music. Take your lumps while you're still employed. When you're then in good standing move on if you want to, and leave the door open behind you. Never burn bridges.
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Post by bobothebeaten on Jan 20, 2016 15:13:10 GMT -5
I would for anyone reading, do NOT quit while you have a disciplinary pending. You too will end up with the no rehire letter. Face the music. Take your lumps while you're still employed. When you're then in good standing move on if you want to, and leave the door open behind you. Never burn bridges. Also, don't quit while you are serving a suspension or uncompleted probationary period. Your HR file will be coded as "No Rehire" too.
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Post by plandon87 on Jan 23, 2016 0:55:45 GMT -5
Spoke with the HR director today, was told that no rehire doesn't exactly mean that anymore it means that when you reapply the application goes up the chain of command to be reviewed. So I guess the million dollar question is who is it doing the reviewing and what do I need to do to convince them to hire me.
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Post by mley1 on Jan 23, 2016 11:13:50 GMT -5
Spoke with the HR director today, was told that no rehire doesn't exactly mean that anymore it means that when you reapply the application goes up the chain of command to be reviewed. So I guess the million dollar question is who is it doing the reviewing and what do I need to do to convince them to hire me. Very good question, and one I would have asked the person who told you that. I've honestly not ever seen a person who had a no rehire letter ever get hired back on. It may happen, but I haven't seen it. Good luck. Hopefully, you can get rehired.
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Post by bobothebeaten on Jan 24, 2016 15:42:43 GMT -5
Spoke with the HR director today, was told that no rehire doesn't exactly mean that anymore it means that when you reapply the application goes up the chain of command to be reviewed. So I guess the million dollar question is who is it doing the reviewing and what do I need to do to convince them to hire me. That's a very safe and white toast response given by an agency lackey. That policy has the same meaning and impact as the policy that describes when two applicants who ties in a promotion interview then more weight is given to a military veteran and the job should be awarded to the veteran. When have you ever seen that rule applied? A while back I submitted an Open Records Request to HR and asked them for a list of all applicants who were awarded promotions to veterans using that policy over the last five years. Response from HR - NONE.
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Post by plandon87 on Mar 8, 2016 23:25:16 GMT -5
Well I never could figure anything else about getting hired as a c/o, however a sergeant friend of mine said that he has people working for him that wasn't able to be hired as a c/o but they were hired to work in other jobs such as count room, mail room, ect. So I figured id give it a try so I applied for a maintenance job, I was told if I was selected that I would have an interview with the warden at the unit. Well I was selected and have an interview scheduled for tomorrow so I guess my app made it through at least for now. I am a bit worried if I am given the job do you think they might catch it down the road and fire me? I would be quitting a pretty decent job to accept this one and don't want to wind up unemployed.
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Post by mley1 on Mar 9, 2016 11:31:04 GMT -5
I doubt they could fire you for that. It would be their fault if they hired you. I don't know for sure though. It's a risk I guess. If you already have a decent job, why are you trying to get hired on by the state?
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Post by plandon87 on Mar 9, 2016 18:52:46 GMT -5
I am looking to get back with the state because my current job is a complete dead end, the other person doing the same job as me has been in the same position for 18 years. I did go to the interview today and I have to admit it was the biggest joke I have ever seen. All we did was answer 6 generic common sense questions about the security of inmates while working with them, then was asked to give a closing statement. No explanation of the job, what I would be doing, asking about my skills or qualifications or anything. I am pretty sure he didn't even read my application. Complete waste of time. They did tell me that they still had to do a background check and put my application through the ringer and everything and that would take 3-4 weeks. I am assuming it is going back to hr to be checked so they will probably catch it then, not really feeling very confident about getting hired. Thinking about just calling the person I turned my application in to at the maintenance department and asking if the process is any different than for c/o at least then I will know if im wasting my time turning in apps.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Mar 10, 2016 2:06:51 GMT -5
How many people applied for the Job? There should have been a posted announcement about the board and the list of Applicants and their Board times.
I can tell you from My experience when applying for positions, If there are outsiders (non-agency applicants) applying then the Questions will be Generic. When Non-Agency apply they can't ask "TDCJ specific Policy".
If you need a "description" of the job, maybe you might need to read the job description before applying.
Your closing statement was your chance to let them know about your skills and or work experiences and Education pertaining to the job you were applying for.
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Post by mley1 on Mar 10, 2016 10:43:04 GMT -5
How many people applied for the Job? There should have been a posted announcement about the board and the list of Applicants and their Board times. I can tell you from My experience when applying for positions, If there are outsiders (non-agency applicants) applying then the Questions will be Generic. When Non-Agency apply they can't ask "TDCJ specific Policy". If you need a "description" of the job, maybe you might need to read the job description before applying. Your closing statement was your chance to let them know about your skills and or work experiences and Education pertaining to the job you were applying for. Snitch is quite right. When there is an outside applicant they have to use general questions, and have to avoid the policy specific questions. Sometimes they'll have study material for certain positions, and questions will come from that study material. I suspect that if your application gets to HR in HV it will be rejected due to the no rehire on your file. If it does get that far, and they approve it, and you get hired, I would think that they really couldn't fire you after that. It would open them up to a wrongful termination law suite.
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Post by plandon87 on Mar 14, 2016 22:25:42 GMT -5
How many people applied for the Job? There should have been a posted announcement about the board and the list of Applicants and their Board times. I can tell you from My experience when applying for positions, If there are outsiders (non-agency applicants) applying then the Questions will be Generic. When Non-Agency apply they can't ask "TDCJ specific Policy". If you need a "description" of the job, maybe you might need to read the job description before applying. Your closing statement was your chance to let them know about your skills and or work experiences and Education pertaining to the job you were applying for. From the sign in sheet I saw there were only 4 people there for interviews including myself, if there was anything posted I was told anything about it. I don't need a description of the job I have a pretty good idea of what it is about I just figured they might give a general rundown or more specific details of what I might be doing. And I did use my closing statement to give a brief idea of my experience and qualifications I guess it was just kind of unexpected. I decided to make a anonymous call to the number on the job description and ask if the hiring standards and procedures were the same for maintenance as for c/o and was told that 90% of all of tdc jobs go through the same process, the only exceptions being chaplain, drug councilors and a few HR jobs. After giving her a run down of my story she suggested I call a recruiter and ask them if there is anything I can do. Long story short he basically said that it is a very common to hear of young people making dumb mistakes and trying to get rehired and have the same problem. He said that time is the biggest factor and to just keep trying and that its possible that it falls under the same standards that people with criminal records. 5 year wait period for misdemeanor, 10 year for felony ect. and since I passed the 5 year mark that my best chance is the 10 year mark. Only 2 more years to go...
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Post by ACI1990 on Nov 24, 2016 12:22:42 GMT -5
I left TDCJ in 2013 and went to apply again this week, when will I find out if I have a no re-hire on my file? I already went through the testing and interview part.
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Post by mley1 on Nov 26, 2016 9:30:16 GMT -5
I left TDCJ in 2013 and went to apply again this week, when will I find out if I have a no re-hire on my file? I already went through the testing and interview part. Under what circumstances did you leave the agency?
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