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Post by mley1 on Jul 11, 2012 6:09:59 GMT -5
And the main reason that STG sgts cannot get work done is that the admins are pulling them for shift sergeant work, to work the chow hall, to give breaks, or to do CO's work. If they were allowed to do their own work that may help out with the STG's running around your unit. That is a common problem.
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Post by guest on Jul 11, 2012 6:24:28 GMT -5
well if a stg sgt had to work shift then thats to their advantage cus that means their are out of the office and can peep the game. first hand knowledge goes along way.kinda like watching fish in the bowl.
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Post by ndano on Jul 11, 2012 6:26:45 GMT -5
And the main reason that STG sgts cannot get work done is that the admins are pulling them for shift sergeant work, to work the chow hall, to give breaks, or to do CO's work. If they were allowed to do their own work that may help out with the STG's running around your unit. I say put STG back into freeworld clothes, seems to me more was accomplished when they wore them.
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Post by takencare on Jul 11, 2012 6:44:01 GMT -5
------STG sgts------[Lieutenants] are pulling them ----- to do CO's work. ---------. I say put STG back into freeworld clothes, ----- more was accomplished when they wore them. Free world clothes would keep those lazy p-o-s-es that run the units from using STG for security. TDCJ-CID units are top heavy with higher ranking administration. If the higher ranking administration were visible, the p-o-s Lieutenants and Captains wouldn't be taking the easiest route to staffing the shift. I have heard a discredited ex-warden say that three out of six of these coordinator spots are vacant. It appears as though no attempt is being made to fill those coordinator spots. Instead, why not leave some Major positions vacant? or riff the senior wardens and let assistant wardens do their jobs? That would save more money and cut down on the graft.
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Post by ndano on Jul 11, 2012 7:37:27 GMT -5
You don't see the OR Sgt. being pulled that much. Unit majors will pull STG to do investigations (which have nothing to do with STG) because they don't want to do it. The Majors, Capt, and Lt's are only concerned with getting their jobs/tasks done and will let you sink when it comes to explaining why you couldn't do your job without getting any overtime.
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Post by bobothebeaten on Jul 11, 2012 14:14:28 GMT -5
Have one of our little gang members contact whitmire and see if someone doesn't get to filling some stg slots in your regions. Look what he did over cellphones. Doesn't Senator Twitmire think a monkey could do this work?
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Post by Guest on Jul 11, 2012 18:34:51 GMT -5
I say put STG back into freeworld clothes, ----- more was accomplished when they wore them. Free world clothes would keep those lazy p-o-s-es that run the units from using STG for security. TDCJ-CID units are top heavy with higher ranking administration. If the higher ranking administration were visible, the p-o-s Lieutenants and Captains wouldn't be taking the easiest route to staffing the shift. I have heard a discredited ex-warden say that three out of six of these coordinator spots are vacant. It appears as though no attempt is being made to fill those coordinator spots. Instead, why not leave some Major positions vacant? or riff the senior wardens and let assistant wardens do their jobs? That would save more money and cut down on the graft. Takencare the apears you have a problem with Terrell's Sr. Warden Roesler. I see you talk about getting rid if the Wardens and letting the Assist. Warden do the job. Are you being being stupid and ending up in his office? Warden Roesler is a good man you are the one who is the problem. Get a life.
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Post by takencare on Jul 11, 2012 19:28:14 GMT -5
----------three out of six of these coordinator spots are vacant. ----------why not ----- riff the senior wardens and let assistant wardens do their jobs? That would save more money and cut down on the graft. Takencare -------- you have a problem with Terrell's Sr. Warden Roesler. ------you talk about getting rid if the Wardens and letting the Assist. Warden do the job. Are you being being stupid and ending up in his office? ----. Thank you for your anonymous concern. Our wise leaders have eliminated Senior Warden positions effectively. I suggest that the remaining Senior Wardens be riffed. My limited perspective is a little broader than the Roesler regime. I assume that the value of all Senior Wardens is comparable to Jackie Edwards. This proposal is not directed personally at a specific Senior Warden. Riffing the remaining Senior Wardens will provide funds to fill and upgrade the STG coordinator positions; possibly more.
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Post by Backgate on Jul 11, 2012 20:47:48 GMT -5
I have not been on a unit yet that a warden allows their STG sergeants to be pulled. I do know however that it happens. Emergency situations exempted of course, but there is NO REASON in my opinion to pull an STG or O/R Sergeant to work shift. It's all about staffing. If you don't have enough Sgts to run the building, don't allow any to take off that day. I agree that more was accomplished when STG Sergeants wore freeworld clothing. It helped calm the inmates that were snitching and keep them from being pulled to work a post.
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Post by ndano on Jul 11, 2012 21:28:59 GMT -5
I'd say 90% of Region 3 STG Sgt's get pulled on a daily basis. Some have been tasked with chasing dirty staff, contraband and various other talks. Now don't get me wrong if they can get a dirty staff member off the unit, it makes their job just a little easier. It's just a pain to stop what your doing to handle a job that shift or the upper ranks can do, just because they are more concerned about their duties. I really don't know if the wardens know about how much their STG staff are being used, but if they do and don't care then there's nothing anyone can do.
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Post by mley1 on Jul 11, 2012 21:39:26 GMT -5
I'd say 90% of Region 3 STG Sgt's get pulled on a daily basis. Some have been tasked with chasing dirty staff, contraband and various other talks. Now don't get me wrong if they can get a dirty staff member off the unit, it makes their job just a little easier. It's just a pain to stop what your doing to handle a job that shift or the upper ranks can do, just because they are more concerned about their duties. I really don't know if the wardens know about how much their STG staff are being used, but if they do and don't care then there's nothing anyone can do. Having some experience in these types of investigations, let me ask you some questions. Which inmates do you think are disproportionally involved in the introduction of contraband and officer relationships? And, which inmates are the ones channeling and making the money off of all the contraband being introduced by crooked staff? Answer those questions and you will understand why the stg sergeants and officers are used for the investigations you mentioned.
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Jul 11, 2012 21:56:52 GMT -5
I'd say 90% of Region 3 STG Sgt's get pulled on a daily basis. Some have been tasked with chasing dirty staff, contraband and various other talks. Now don't get me wrong if they can get a dirty staff member off the unit, it makes their job just a little easier. It's just a pain to stop what your doing to handle a job that shift or the upper ranks can do, just because they are more concerned about their duties. I really don't know if the wardens know about how much their STG staff are being used, but if they do and don't care then there's nothing anyone can do. Having some experience in these types of investigations, let me ask you some questions. Which inmates do you think are disproportionally involved in the introduction of contraband and officer relationships? And, which inmates are the ones channeling and making the money off of all the contraband being introduced by crooked staff? Answer those questions and you will understand why the stg sergeants and officers are used for the investigations you mentioned. The ones in choir ;D
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Post by mley1 on Jul 11, 2012 22:20:21 GMT -5
The other question I would ask is; which staff do you think has the training and experience to conduct these investigations?
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Post by accussedsnitchgp11 on Jul 12, 2012 1:06:57 GMT -5
The other question I would ask is; which staff do you think has the training and experience to conduct these investigations? me
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Post by bobothebeaten on Jul 12, 2012 7:02:16 GMT -5
The other question I would ask is; which staff do you think has the training and experience to conduct these investigations? No experience necessary. The findings are directed so the evidence doesn't matter.
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